I've seen the initial post eviscerated by more than one tolerant and compassionate Catholic.
I don't know exactly what Mr. Sammons meant about men leading the Church. It's been a long lament since I became Christian that men hold the 'formal and technical' leadership in various (but not all) Christian traditions. They sure don't live it, however. Perhaps that's what he means. Maybe he means men need to stop leaving church to hit the links and watch the games and making women do everything but lead in name.
Whatever he meant, whether something common sense, or a secret code for society to revert to the Handmaid's Tale, I don't know. One thing I do know is that I have absolutely no clue what Alt's response is about. I get the feeling he thinks it's really one golly gee of a zinger. Or he maybe he just wrote words because jargon words. It's anyone's guess I suppose.
Scott is taking the words overly literal to get a "gatcha." Right now the debate between Left and Right is "sex is clear & obvious" vs "well who can say what's really male v female?" Scott's reply is essentially that of trying to say the other person is making that Leftist argument.
ReplyDeletePretty much, which makes it nonsense. It is nowhere near "modernist" in a Catholic context, and "liberal" is just a cuss word for most folks.
DeleteAlt has pundit envy, and he's never going to be more than a super flyweight in Catholic commentary.
Yeah, it reeks of being a bad joke.
DeleteDavid's interpretation seems to be that men are not sufficiently involved in the churches. That is no doubt true; religion has been increasingly feminized, probably going back to the aftermath of the Thirty Years' War. My guess is that he instead means the adult males who occupy positions of leadership should act more like men, instead of like XXXXXXX. Forget about martyrdom, too many of them are not even willing to face the "dry martyrdom" of not being invited to prayer breakfasts with low-level politicians or of being called names in social media.
I don't think the men of this age will be the men that future generations of men will use as heroic examples. And that's a shame.
DeleteAlt is a bog-standard conservative Catholic. That means he conserves the present moment, only savages those of a more traditionalist bent and has a lot of difficulty using terms properly.
ReplyDeleteI know little of him. I remember I encountered him mostly some years ago as an attack dog who went after critics of Mark Shea. I see little of him, but sometimes someone will copy a post of his. Otherwise, no real info to go with, except he meets criticism with name calling.
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