By regurgitating the old pro-abortion canard that pro-lifers don't care about poor mothers or children:
I liked her response to Neil. Until all pro-lifers have lived up to her standards, she sees no reason to think she has anything particular that she wanted. And no Ms. Eden, we don't get to equate political legislation to the Gospel call to feed the hungry and clothe the naked.
Oh, I'd like Ms. Eden to provide the statistics that show pro-life individuals are any less charitable, or giving toward poor mothers and children, than anyone else. My first experience with giving a flip about abortion was in an evangelical church that spend copious amounts of energy and funds in helping a pregnancy center for mothers and children. I think they staged one protest while I was there. The rest was centered no helping the mothers and their children. That was as often as not par for the course in my Protestant days.
It's worth noting that I see Ms. Klassen doing more on a rainy day to halt the horror of our abortion culture than everything I've seen Ms. Eden do for more than a decade. Just saying.
I won't have what I want until people who put adjectives in front of 'justice' define their terms.
ReplyDeleteGood point. I find a lot of what comes out in these talking points is kept purposefully vague.
DeleteI have a suspicion that a candidate who actually did run on a platform of measures to improve the quality of life of impecunious people in this country would attract a lot of wrath from various parties, including the latter-day Ms. Eden. Any aspirant candidates - if you're looking for a bullet-point platform, I'll write you one gratis.
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ReplyDeleteSome years ago, a British economist proposed that families with at least three children be excused from OAP taxes, on the grounds (and he showed some math) that their children when grown would generate more than enough wealth and other taxes to compensate. He seems to have gotten frozen looks all round.
For some reason, any call for encouraging more children is met with rage and anger from the left. I'm still not sure why. But it's hard to miss.
DeleteAll pro-lifers? As in 100%? Good luck getting 100% of any constituency to do anything. Dawn Eden needs to spend more time hanging out with human beings in the real world and less time on Twitter
ReplyDeleteI don't think Twitter does many people much good. But her premise alone is problematic. That she throws out the lazy 'all', as if she could live up to a 100% standard herself, suggests this is more deflection than legit outreach.
DeleteSteven Greydanus is a snake. Check this out: https://twitter.com/DecentFilms/status/1540450645731414021.
ReplyDeleteYep. The opinions run to over 200 pages, and, no, the bad deacon hasn't read them. It's not even clear to what he's alluding. Is that supposed to be Alito's argument or some 3d party's? Just what is the argument?
DeleteHe's playing Devil's advocate with his non-Catholic twin. He can't come right out and praise the decision. That might garner the ire of his friends in the New York film community.
DeleteIn fairness to Deacon Greydanus, he's about the only Catholic who runs along the left side of the tracks to bother saying the decision, itself at least, is good. Most have avoided saying anything positive about it. Yes, he then goes and begins regurgitating various standard leftwing pro-abortion talking points. But at least he said the decision was good. That's a far sight better than I've seen from many "New Prolife Catholics".
DeleteYou know what? I'm sick of this sort of moral blackmail. I'm more than happy to help people out, but it's not that difficult to refrain from having sex if you lack the means or the wherewithal to raise a child. And until pro-lifers stop legitimizing that stupid, stupid argument, people like Dawn can sit down and shut up.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing is that Eden writes as if common-and-garden Catholics who vote Republican are all on the Herbert Spencer - George Barton Cutten - Ayn Rand axis. That's just very peculiar. There are people who make throwaway remarks that carry an odor of that, but I've encountered about two in my years of wasting my life in online discussion.
DeleteEden will run interference for the Jane's Revenge hags and then bash pro-lifers for not helping women.
DeleteRefrain from sex? You go too far! Note how that is almost never discussed, even among some conservatives and others who are otherwise 'anti-abortion.' It's as if we say sex, unlike food, water and oxygen, is something we simply must have. And AIDS? Well, that's just you know. And babies? That's not even a reasonable consequence. Thus when reality crashes into the narrative, we have to hear all manner of babbling on about rubbish. But that we throw over our modern sex and drugs culture? That's like saying we should go back to churning our own butter. At least in the reactions from almost all to the Left, and not a few to the Right.
DeleteI see Sean P. Dailey, former editor of Gilbert! is irritated.
ReplyDeleteDawn Eden is a creepy clandestine pro-abort.
ReplyDeleteI would like to rebuke your statement on the grounds of fairness and assuming best intentions. Yet, she makes it more and more difficult. In hindsight, I wonder how long it has been that we might have noticed some strangely 'not anti-abortion' ideals coming from her works.
DeleteMeanwhile, pro-abortion terrorists are targeting the pregnancy centers that provided just that sort of care for pregnant women.
ReplyDeleteYou must not watch the news. If you did, you'd never know anything is happening.
DeleteThe judgment scene in Matthew 25 is consistently mis-handled by nearly all modern Christians. For the first one thousand eight hundred years of church history the hungry and naked ones who needed to be attended to (the "brethren" of Judge Jesus and his "least ones") were universally understood to be Christians. Not that there's anything wrong with helping others --- it's just that there is no mandate in the gospel for a generalized philanthropy. ---- G. Poulin
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