For proof, I give you John C. Wright's excellent musings on the entire Torture debate. I'm still not convinced that waterboarding doesn't qualify as torture. I just can't see the Nazis doing it and us shrugging our shoulders and saying 'At least they didn't torture the fellow.' Still, the greater point is the dangers posed in such a heated debate, and how they apply to both sides. Those who would gladly torture for the American way? Shame. Those who nonetheless distort and even lie for the greater good? Catholics, need we say? An excellent piece that should be read before entering into the debate.