Tuesday, October 7, 2025

On this October 7th

A comment I left on a post that was decrying Israel's Nazi style genocide against Gaza and the Palestinians.  Like this story here.  This is in no way a defense for anything and everything Israel is or might do.  It is to keep it real.  We live in an age of untruth, and there's nothing we like more than telling it like it ain't.  Why is Israel doing what it is doing and ignoring virtually the entire world's outcry?  My take: 

You call this being what happens when someone gets backed into a corner. As one military historian I follow pointed out, October 7th was a probing action. For years, terror groups in surrounding areas could attack Israel, kill a couple Israelis, and then as soon as Israel responded, the world condemned - Israel. October 7th was to see just how many Jews can be killed, tortured, and mutilated in a single day and still have the world condemn Israel. That number now being over a thousand. Because almost immediately, after a day or two of shock while protests erupted around the world celebrating Hamas and cheering what it did, the world once again condemned - Israel.  Initially the outrage was triggered by the hospital Hamas turned out to have attacked, but as soon as it could, the world dropped the hammer on Israel and hasn’t stopped since. Because a significant number in the surrounding nations and those in alliance with those nations have made it clear they want Israel wiped off the map and are willing to kill any number of Jews to do it, and the world has expressed solidarity with those saying so, there just isn't much motivation for Netanyahu to do anything else. Not everyone in the world today builds vast networks of ethics around the premise that as long as it's those other shmucks who get taken out and they leave me alone, I'm good.  Of course, none of this excuses what Israel is or might do no matter what.  But the problem is, we’ve learned from years of experience that nothing Israel does will be excused, while those wishing for a post-Israel world are the ones garnering the world’s support time and again.  

8 comments:

  1. So many critics of Israel strike me as arguing similar to many of the spineless right: "What should ___ do?" "I don't know, just not what they are doing now." Whatever is done is the "wrong" thing. It should be done differently. Eventually you realize it's not about the ethics at all, it's just about paralyzing. Especially when you notice that none of the foes seem to be subject to nearly the same scrutiny.

    Nobody really believes their morals any more. To those type of people my reply now is: "Your moral outrage means nothing, we've all seen what you celebrate."

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    1. That reminds me of something that was said some years ago when talking about this and various assaults on the Church, the Faith and the West with our sons. Sometimes you can't help but think what passes for Christian virtue from our modern leaders is nothing other than cowardice with a Jesus mask. They don't have what it takes to stand up and defend the Faith or our societal inheritance from the barbarians, so they look for ways to justify letting the barbarians have their way, and hope when the dust settles the ones who pay the price won't be them.

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  2. I have not forgotten 9/11.

    Islam delenda est.

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    1. You watch any of David Woods' stuff? He declared 2025 the year of the great Islamic apostasy. I've been enjoying some of his work (his best friend from college he converted from Islam to Christianity - really interesting story).

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    2. I remember an Orthodox Christian man from Syria, in discussing the tidal surge of immigration from the Middle East into Europe, said that certainly we don't believe that after a thousand years of trying, the Muslim world finally just gave up trying to take over Europe just because the West had the upper hand for a couple centuries, do we?

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  3. (Tom New Poster)
    Since the Jews of Medina witnessed that Mohammed didn't know what he was talking about, the hate has never stopped (although under some caliphs who needed their skills and allies against Christians, it went into calculated abeyance). The curious question is why Leftist Westerners have joined them. Fr. Von Baltassar suggested that utopia hates special claims, like the primacy of the family over the state and the notion that one nation on the whole planet has its charter from Heaven. Of course where the Catholic Church teaches what it's supposed to, we're hated too.

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    1. I think the purpose of the Left has been made clear - that it seeks to throw down the Christian Western tradition. In that, it sees allies in anyone who is in the slightest way not invested in promoting the wellbeing of the West, and Islam in general fits that category. Hence LGBTQ activists marching in full support of Islam, when Islam nowhere in the world gives full rights to anything LGBTQ - at best. The wellbeing of LGTBQ individuals being of apparent secondary importance next to calling down hellfire on the one civilization that has pushed for LGBTQ rights more than anywhere.

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  4. “Patriotism is a virtue that was allied to the old virtue of the Greeks and Latin called ‘Pietas.’ ‘Pietas’ meant love of God, love of neighbor, love of country. And when one goes out, all go out.
    “[When] we no longer have love of God, we no longer have love of country.” Fulton Sheen

    I think this speaks volumes for both where Progressives and Israelis stand, to be perfectly honest.

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