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Early onset vampirism in Salem's Lot: Know the signs! |
So for fun this year, I reread
Salem’s Lot. I’m not much of a Steve King fan.
Marcus Grodi once said he believed King to be
the greatest American author.
I assumed he meant in modern times.
Since he was
my boss at the time, I didn’t debate the statement.
Suffice to say I don't consider King to be near the top of American writers.
But I do like a couple of his books. One is Salem’s
Lot. It strikes all those little
chords: the haunted house, the small town secrets, the cemetery, the vampire
hunter team. Fun stuff. It also does a neat ‘vampire plague’ spin,
being what Dracula wanted to accomplish in London but didn't.
As the story unfolds and the plague of vampires grows, you
can see the main characters grapple with reality as they come face to face with pure,
legendary evil. You feel them recoil
as one after another, people in the town vanish or, worse, begin to show signs
of becoming the latest victims of this plague of evil enveloping their home
town.
I thought of that as I reflected on my last discourse with
Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong. I have followed Dave for years. He did the heavy lifting with Catholic apologetics, often going after unfair or false accusations
leveled against the Church. His was
never a blog to read with only two or three minutes to spare. He would take his time and unpack some pretty
hefty issues down to the nitty gritty.
That was more than worth the visits to his website.
For a long time, he also railed against other Catholics who
were beginning to draw a line in the sand between good, GOP hating, Francis
loving, new pro-life Catholics with stars on their bellies, versus stupid Francis hating Catholics who refuse to get in the progressive line. More than once he posted long, almost tiresome
attempts to reason with these Catholics who gave only one option, and that was
to glorify them, the left, Pope Francis, and all that was pure Catholicism 21st Century style or pay the piper.
Well, that was then. Below
is the discourse I had with him over a post dealing with Vatican II. The whole of the post is here. I have posted his end of the article summary, and
my response. My accounts of what happened
are in bold, his answers and writings in italics. The parts with no special font designs were my
original posts in his actual comments section:
Brazilian Catholic
writer Oliveira Leonardo has decided to start bashing and trashing Vatican II.
I defend it and note that his oppositional zeal is utterly misplaced.
To which I responded
with this comment:
I don't know, I think the discussion can be had. I'm not sure the individual in question was
claiming 100% of the problems in the Church are Vatican II. There might be some who think that, but most
I've read or listened to don't think that.
In fact, I've heard many not necessarily 'trashing or hashing' Vatican
II, but who look at the state of the overall Church and wonder what went right,
wrong and downright screwy after Vatican II.
I've heard more than one (including our priest) who clearly supports and
celebrates Vatican II, but who also equally admits it was misused and abused by
far too many Catholics to simply dismiss the subsequent decades as 'nothing to
see here folks.'
I went back to see if
there were any responses. I noticed my
comment was missing. So I posted a
question about what happened to it.
Seeing my question appear, I reposted my original comment. Then I returned a day or so later and saw all
of my comments were removed. So I asked
what’s up. And then Dave answered:
I don't allow
anti-Vatican II rhetoric on my pages unless I am in the mood for debating it
(as I did in this exchange). Just take it somewhere else. I've had enough of
it.
At that point, I responded:
Wait, was that my post? It couldn't have been, since it
wasn't 'anti-Vatican II rhetoric' by any stretch of the phrase. All I said was
the discussion about Vatican II can be had, and that most I know don't trash
Vatican II as much as they try to figure what went wrong in the following
decades. Which is true. So where did my comments go? I don't see them. Again,
since again my posts were in no way close to 'anti-Vatican II rhetoric' I can't
figure where they end up going.
Dave then responded:
That was my decision
on my web page. If you don't like it, you can lump it.
With that pleasant
little response, I answered thus:
You may do as you wish of course. I wouldn't advise it since we've seen where
others have ended up going with 'I have posted, now agree or be deleted.' Mark Shea, of course, leaps to mind. Best not to have comments at all if the only
thing commenters are allowed to do is agree.
But again, despite seeing where others have gone with that approach, if
that's where you wish to go, it is your blog.
Dave then responded
once again:
If you bitch about it
one more time, that'll be three strikes and you're out. What you are doing is
universally agreed upon as trolling: continuing to strongly disagree on the
policy of a site (how someone chooses to run his own pages), when the owner has
made his view clear, that it crosses a line. Webmasters are benevolent
dictators in their own domains. You don't like that? Get your own site and work
for 29 years to build up name recognition, as I have.
You can pretend I am
against free speech if you like. I guess that would be why I have 1,000+
dialogues, with my opponents' view (often, their complete article) on display
for my readers. It's a standard lie when someone disagrees with me. Feel free
to join the crowd there and make a fool of yourself.
I've dealt with THIS
stuff for 25 years. St. Paul tells us to separate from contentious people. No
one who is ever being contentious and divisive admits that he is.
This is my way of
applying his command, while I still occasionally debate the issues, as I did in
the OP.
With that, I then
answered:
Well, there's not much I can say is there. Though I will say
I had no intention of claiming you are against free speech. You might want to
dial back the assumptions on that one. I would ask that you wait for me to do
something before you begin piling on the problems with me if I do it. My only
statement was questioning the wisdom of giving combox commenters no choice but
to agree, given the track record of that approach to online discourse.
Nonetheless, as you say, it is your blog and you may do with it as you wish.
I'll respect your right to do so and drop the subject.
Dave then answered
this way:
Wise choice. I just wrote
elsewhere:
I have been totally
banned for years at reactionary sites like The Remnant and Taylor Marshall's
trash site. Peter Kwasniewski used to talk with me a bit. Now I am banned on
his site, etc. One Peter Five banned me (under Skojec) when they had comments.
I only ban people who
are persistently uncivil and hostile and won't follow my discussion rules: NOT
because of what they believe. But I don't allow Vatican II-bashing or
pope-bashing.
Certain folks call
that "censorship." I call it Catholicism and Catholic unity.
"Best not to have
comments at all if the only thing commenters are allowed to do is agree."
If this lie from h e l l is NOT claiming I am against free speech on my blog,
then we must have totally different brains, logic, and understandings of grammar
and sentence meanings.
My final response,
and my final comment on Dave’s social media platforms, was this:
With that, I'll leave you to it.
It’s worth noting this was not Dave Armstrong, c. 2006 when
I first ran into him. Or for that
matter, it wasn’t him in 2016, ten years later. It is, it should be pointed out, very similar to the likes of Mark Shea by 2016.
I was informed it was becoming Dave Armstrong a couple years or so ago. That was after
Dave had a eureka moment, realized Pope Francis was absolutely right about
banning the death penalty, came to realize the wonders of Pope Francis, and
began banning people who hadn’t seen the light.
I posted on this phenomenon of Catholics warming up to Pope
Francis and growing in their intolerance of those who fail to agree, and how this was part of the war on EWTN waged by Pope Francis and his followers. Not that those on the left, progressive Catholics or fans of Pope Francis are the only ones who do this. But it seems an almost universal trait among those who are in those camps.
Because of that, I mentioned Dave was starting to sound strangely Sheaish in his dealings, which is never a good thing. Dave
visited my blog and protested that I had wrongly portrayed his approach to
things. He said this, despite the fact that I was
going by people who he had banned for merely disagreeing with Pope Francis.
I accepted his perspective and figured fine, if he’s not going the
direction that almost every Catholic who throws in
with Pope Francis or progressive leanings seems to go, I’ll concede the point.
But now it’s this. It’s
like the feeling Ben Mears and Susan Norton have in Salem’s Lot as they begin
to see more and more of the town show symptoms of being vampires. As one after another shows the signs –
bothered by sunlight, tired, sick feeling, strange dreams – they recoil all the
more, for they know where this vermin plague of vampirism goes.
As I watch so many follow Pope Francis and inevitably end up
going in the same direction in terms of intolerant behavior and vitriolic treatment of others; as I see so many jump in bed with the emerging Left, who inevitably follow the similar ‘I have spoken, celebrate or be banned’, I get the same feeling. If it was just vampirism it wouldn't be so bad. I fear it is much, much worse.