Sunday, July 3, 2016

Happy 4th of July

I'll be out for the rest of the weekend.  I have no clue when everything will going strong at Patheos.  In the meantime, check at Patheos or check back here.  For fun, I had the day off and decided to comment on a very open and reasonable Catholic Facebook page.  The topic was lifting up above the political media partisanship and narratives and trying to look at society as a whole.  It's fun reading, let me tell you.  Until next time, be safe, have a wonderful weekend, and God bless.

UPDATE: Apparently Mark has banned me from his Facebook page for good. We'll see if there is more to say about that later.  For now, the link might not work.  Which is fine.  It wasn't pleasant reading.  Anyway Happy July 4th.

UPDATE 2: Mark has now banned me from everything at this point.  My wife too.  Towards the end of the Facebook debate, Mark called upon his readers to join him.  No, he didn't say he wanted them to join and gang up on me.  But I was pretty sure that was where he was going.  During the course of the development, his readers made it clear that they supported Mark's approach to discourse over mine.  They were also aghast that I would post a link to his page and beg my readers to go over there.  Personally I wouldn't have minded if a few readers came over and helped me out against the onslaught.

Now Mark has done that very thing more times than I can count.  I was shocked to find out it was a big deal.  Heck, back in the day I would follow links Mark posted about debates he was in on other sites and rush to defend him when he was being attacked.  I imagined that it was fine to do.  But Mark clearly had issues with it, and Mark is an honourable man.

Likewise, Mark made it clear he was outraged at the posts where I have criticized him, his styles, or that part of the Catholic blogosphere with which he associates.  Usually, those posts came after heated debates with Mark in which Mark either said something about others I felt crossed the line, or said something about me which I thought crossed the line, and either threatened to ban me or ordered me off of his page.  I don't know about you, but I don't like being accused of wanting to increase human slaughter or not really caring about Jesus.  Especially when, in the course of debating, I'm forbidden from defending myself under threat of being banned.

Nonetheless, despite the fact that Mark has made his living by posting the writings and statements of others and criticizing them and calling on his readers to do the same, he was upset at the fact that I had done the same to him.  I didn't see it as some hate thing, I'm sincerely worried about Mark's spiritual pilgrimage.  Yet Mark was offended.  And Mark is an honourable man.

So from now on, if Mark stops taking the words of others and using them to attack those individuals or encouraging others to do the same, then I will refrain from further posts or criticisms of Mark or his tactics.  Quite frankly, if Mark stops doing that, I'll have little to complain about.  When Mark actually writes about Church teaching or unpacking the Bible or day to day Christian living, there are few better.  What could I complain about?  So that is my pledge.  I will no longer criticize Mark or post references to him, unless it is to give a thumbs up regarding something he has written, if Mark also ceases the same approach that he criticized me of using.  After all, if he does that, then I could honestly say that Mark is an honorable man.


  1. The hell? He talks about you screenshoting with contempt? But IIRC you've only put a screenshot of his Facebook once. Or is he complaining that you don't screenshot him more and are distorting his words?

    Interesting that him and others believe you're "sicing" your followers on them. There ever been a time u posted a link and people swarmed Mark's page? 'Cause I've never seen it.

  2. Yeah, it was pretty strange. I was disappointed in his call out to his friends to come and gang up on me, for that is what it clearly was. But his outrage that I posted posts critical of him and posted things he had written, when his entire blog ministry is based on taking stories about people, things they've said and things they've written, and attacking them and encouraging his followers to do the same, that was a head spinner. But, now I'm officially banned. The other times I posted things were following times he ordered me off of his page, or like the time I defended TMLutas, he threatened to ban me. But this time he did it.

    For fun, I got on his page through my wife's facebook page. She seldom uses FB, and didn't mind. She's no fan anyway. I let folks know Mark had banned me and that their appraisal that I was the jerk and Mark was the sincere one seemed a strange appraisal. This morning I checked, and Mark banned her too. I had to chuckle.


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