tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post1914048084358628144..comments2024-03-29T05:22:26.118-04:00Comments on Daffey Thoughts: The City of Truth versus the City of BigotryDavid Griffeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-16897288889557412642022-12-06T11:23:52.462-05:002022-12-06T11:23:52.462-05:00That is the opposite of the feminist message. I r...That is the opposite of the feminist message. I remember a college philosophy class (c. late 1980s) in which the very male professor boldly declared that a woman who devoted herself to raising kids would never be a full person. The idea of sacrifice for others is almost anathema in our society that loves to act as if it really values the sacrifice of others. In fact, that is the thing. We love sacrifice - of others. Just not ourselves. And feminism has been a leading banner carrier for that for as long as I remember. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-8381660980812345382022-12-06T08:31:59.531-05:002022-12-06T08:31:59.531-05:00Most women in the past did not deem it virtuous to...Most women in the past did not deem it virtuous to be center of attention or even remembered. Sometimes our forgetting is unfortunate, as in the case of Mary Katherine Goddard - the only woman who appears on the Declaration of Independence as she was the PUBLISHER, and Sarah Josepha Hale, the woman who is responsible for Thanksgiving as a national holiday. Hale, who edited a national magazine after she was widowed, still believed raising a family was the most important thing a woman could do for the good of humanity. A job well done was its own reward. Bernadettenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-45345522948009719712022-11-30T08:19:49.605-05:002022-11-30T08:19:49.605-05:00Bob, yep. That's my point. And this soup has...Bob, yep. That's my point. And this soup has been served for well over a hundred years. I just don't think we recognized the recipe. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-52046221849924156902022-11-29T12:31:12.008-05:002022-11-29T12:31:12.008-05:00"we shouldn't assume when we don't he..."we shouldn't assume when we don't hear about people or know certain things it's all about bigotry or sexism or racism"<br /><br />You are right Dave buy I'm afraid that is the soupe du jour.Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-44439226189070018612022-11-29T08:13:03.850-05:002022-11-29T08:13:03.850-05:00Bob, I think that's a good point. Whether it ...Bob, I think that's a good point. Whether it was a failure or not is depending on why she did what she did. I don't think it need be about downplaying these people. I mean, we hear about some we don't about others. That's life and history. But the point I was making is we shouldn't assume when we don't hear about people or know certain things it's all about bigotry or sexism or racism. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-15894486425812504932022-11-28T17:39:13.137-05:002022-11-28T17:39:13.137-05:00Sorry Dave. It's Bob again on that last 'a...Sorry Dave. It's Bob again on that last 'anon' reply above. Bobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-65776541499007218612022-11-28T17:12:57.040-05:002022-11-28T17:12:57.040-05:00I've no problem with "There was no scient...I've no problem with "There was no scientific value to any of it...every leg of it had been flown before". People have done things through all of history not because of scientific value but because of human determination. Some people don't see any value in that. Tough because I do and many others do. People can repeat a feat done before but it doesn't make it make it useless or worthless because SOMEone deems it so. It is important to someone. I agree Dave that AE is someone I know the name of and a few facts but doing what she did, on her own, in her day says much to me about her character. Lindbergh flew the Atlantic. That's what he wanted to do and he did. AE wanted to circumnavigate and tried and failed. If AE's motivation was to better a man then she failed. I her motivation was to accomplish a feat to prove herself TO herself then she succeeded more than those who criticized her because they were better qualified. At least she tried. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-48945699374090396982022-11-28T13:14:26.795-05:002022-11-28T13:14:26.795-05:00Art:
On one level all hard work (especially i...Art:<br /> On one level all hard work (especially if it requires risk or some level of creativity) is to be acknowledged. On another, doing hard work is pretty common in the world. It should be enough to treat such people decently (and pay them decently), thank 'em and move on. We may be irreplaceable in God's eyes, but very few of qualify in the world's. If in the past some workers were recognized more than others for the same work, by all means set the record straight, but it doesn't require a parade of breast-beaters. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-85853694094172167002022-11-28T11:40:16.225-05:002022-11-28T11:40:16.225-05:00That goes to show the reason why we know some peop...That goes to show the reason why we know some people can be many things beyond just bigotry. I was never that interested in the Earhart saga beyond her role as a cultural icon, obviously. Sort of a female aviator version of Harry Houdini. Someone I know the name of and a few flashcard facts, but not much else. Again, not because of bigotry, but merely interest on my part. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-55782414018757035872022-11-28T09:32:22.473-05:002022-11-28T09:32:22.473-05:00The movie Hidden Figures took a set of computation...The movie <i>Hidden Figures</i> took a set of computational technicians and promoted the idea that the whole space program was crucially dependent on their work. Research papers by a couple of these women were published in professional journals over the course of their careers. They were people of circumscribed but real accomplishment. They weren't irreplaceable and they weren't doing anything more dramatic than what this nation's 17,000 actuaries do every day. The racial neuroses of our idiot media class require they be presented as something they were not. (Note, digital technology has largely automated their work, so they have no latter-day counterparts).Art Deconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-12343650361802991712022-11-28T09:25:57.009-05:002022-11-28T09:25:57.009-05:00It's Amelia Earhart. Her husband, George Putn...It's Amelia Earhart. Her husband, George Putnam, was her business manager and crucial to promoting her exploits and monetizing them. Earhart was of interest because she was a woman engaged in derring-do. There was nothing unique about her activities per se. A two digit population of men were doing what she was doing and establishing benchmarks she worked to meet. Note, she was a member of the 99s, a corps of women aviators. There were other women doing things she was doing at the time, but they did not have George Putnam keeping their name in the papers and arranging their book contracts and speaking engagements. The <i>American Experience</i> documentary on Amelia Earhart issued in 1993 included interviews with Elinor Smith, another member of the 99s who was given the opportunity to say her piece on Earhart. Among her complaints were that Earhart's technical skills were inferior to other women in the 99s and she wasn't getting in enough flying time to keep them up and extend them. Another complaint she had was that many of AE's activities were a waste of time and resources, especially the circumnavigation flights which got her killed. ("There was no scientific value to any of it...every leg of it had been flown before"). Art Deconoreply@blogger.com