tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post1814237715236886676..comments2024-03-29T05:22:26.118-04:00Comments on Daffey Thoughts: The prophets of fact checkDavid Griffeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-42360509406406205682021-10-14T08:35:34.118-04:002021-10-14T08:35:34.118-04:00Yep. That's how most journalism operates anyw...Yep. That's how most journalism operates anyway. Fact Checkers are merely a more flagrant display of naked partisanship under the banner of 'trust us, not partisan.' By now I can't imagine there is anyone left who thinks journalism is objective. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-42672573414895526092021-10-14T08:16:57.315-04:002021-10-14T08:16:57.315-04:00Heh. Heh. David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-20644227047724392502021-10-14T08:15:32.004-04:002021-10-14T08:15:32.004-04:00I'm surprised people muster the energy to sear...I'm surprised people muster the energy to search for Fact Checkers to be honest.David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-85747527803457511072021-10-14T08:14:54.507-04:002021-10-14T08:14:54.507-04:00L:ke most things, I think people listen to the FCs...L:ke most things, I think people listen to the FCs who will tell them what they want to hear. Tickle their ears that is.David Griffeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06629314279592541401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-25363657848337769142021-10-13T18:34:00.169-04:002021-10-13T18:34:00.169-04:00Small correction: I found an archived version of t...Small correction: I found an archived version of the twitter conversation and the actual reason that LaCapria uses for not contacting students herself is, and I quote:<br /><br />"We call sources all the time, but not in pursuit of a clickbait OMG TEH COLLEGES R LIBRUL efforts."<br /><br />The archive is here:<br /><br />https://archive.fo/ixrt0Rudolph Harriernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-39752322026808482882021-10-13T18:26:39.770-04:002021-10-13T18:26:39.770-04:00There was a Snopes article "debunking" t...There was a Snopes article "debunking" the idea that Emory students felt threatened by a piece of pro-Trump grafitti. A lot of it was hair splitting, such as saying that claims of "emergency counseling" were lies if students merely got "counseling." But the claim that students were afraid was dismissed (in the original version of the article) on the basis of "we were unable to substantiate that anyone" made such claims.<br /><br />The article's author, Kim LaCapria, was contacted by a Daily Beast reporter who had interviewed several Emory students and offered to provide direct quotes from the interview. LaCapria declined, saying that this would be hearsay and it would be irresponsible to quote anything not directly from students. She was then offered contact information for the students since they had expressed interest in future interviews, so that she could hear from students directly that they were afraid. Once again she declined, this time on the basis that is not the purpose of Snopes to do original research.<br /><br />For the icing on the cake, LaCapria was contacted by a president of an Emory student group a few hours later. His statements that no students were afraid on campus were immediately accepted and put into the article.<br /><br />On top of that, the Snopes article used a student newspaper article to "debunk" the notion of "emergency counseling." But if you go into that article you find students saying things like "I don’t deserve to feel afraid at my school," "I’m supposed to feel comfortable and safe [here]," and in a student assembly when the crowd was asked what they felt, one of the most common responses was "fear." So Snopes OWN link showed that at least some students were afraid, and yet the article still has "students were afraid" under the "what's false" part of their verdict, with the primary reasoning still being that they were unable to determine that students were afraid.<br /><br />It was seeing that article develop in real time that convinced me that "fact-checkers" aren't even trying to tell the truth.Rudolph Harriernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-6135425764330978642021-10-13T13:49:11.703-04:002021-10-13T13:49:11.703-04:00There's probably an entire comedy book to be w...There's probably an entire comedy book to be written about "fact-checkers in regards to Aesop's fables." Nate Winchesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00630873800235819300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-50130249746111805712021-10-13T09:53:45.759-04:002021-10-13T09:53:45.759-04:00Why research the truth yourself when you have trus...Why research the truth yourself when you have trustworthy fact checkers to do it for you? That's way easier. OrdinaryCatholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04393072191728326587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6226269873507053740.post-34132238507690678952021-10-13T09:50:00.706-04:002021-10-13T09:50:00.706-04:00The audience for fact checkers is people who want ...The audience for fact checkers is people who want to believe they are thinking but who don't actually want to think. Therefore SOME reason is required for the verdict, but it doesn't matter it all if it is a completely bankrupt reason.Rudolph Harriernoreply@blogger.com